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George W. Bush
Posted by: Morty Gazinsky 2001-08-14 18:59:08
Have we ever had a president who was less involved and less informed than George W.?

America, you elected the wrong man and now we all suffer together.


Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: jenfromthelou 2004-11-06 12:02:16 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
I'm not trying to make a big political argument, but if everyone is so mad at Bush winning, then who voted for him? Everyone is so violently opposed, but had to win somehow... the majority (in theory) of America voted for him right?

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: bowker 2004-03-13 06:54:12 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Have you seen the George W. Bush Coloring Book?
http://www.gcpress.com/gwbush/
It's hilarious.

What is the definition of E-commerce?
Posted by: pinehill 2002-12-19 07:31:54 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Can you tell me? As particular as possible. Thanks.

OPEN TOPIC? Thats nice -- ok, let me try this
Posted by: Yon 2002-12-07 12:37:02 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Who likes to read?
What do you read
Fiction? NonFiction?
I just finished
The Jazz & The Blues by G. Arthur Woods
it's a novel
It's got it all, roadtripping, backalley jazz and blues clubs, ...transvestites??? (Smile)
ANYWAY: Can we post a link here?
Rather them me rambling on about it
there are write ups and reviews at
WWW.ReadersNet.Net

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: spirtwise1 2002-11-09 14:56:22 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
We the people of the United States of America did not elect President Bush, the highest court of the land did.

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: jenfromthelou 2004-11-08 01:39:29 In reply to: spirtwise1
Good point, I was just trying to play devil's advocate, I'm the last one to try to defend that man. I see I'm not alone on this board though. So did anyone check out that coloring book? That sounds funny! And did anyone look at kevinkringle.com? I haven't but I am going to.

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: sponnie 2002-11-12 11:23:54 In reply to: spirtwise1
Sorry for stating the obvious but why is Bush so concerned about UN resolutions? Isn't Israel contravening 63 of them right now and doesn't it have THE true weapon of mass destruction? America seems to be oblivious to the fact that the rest of the world sees this double standard and is only sucking up to the new resolution because no one wants to upset America because hell hath no fury like a spoiled kid scorned. Oh yeah and North Korea has a couple of them too which does make me chuckle.
P.S. Who is carnivore and what are the Feds after him/her for?

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: workinghard 2002-11-25 16:28:52 In reply to: sponnie
Israel has not unleashed its WMD on its own populace. Israel is not paying the families of suicide bombers $25K to support and encourage the continuation of these bombings.
Israel offers open elections in which the citizenry has the opportunity to vote as opposed to a false election in which speaking for the opposition can lead to the end of your life.
Israel has its share of issues and problems, they are certainly not guilt free, but there is absolutely no correlation between Israel and Iraq.

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: redmondrose 2002-10-10 22:09:45 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Bush? NO! I haven't seen anyone in the media as much as he is. I've flamed the White House about his grinning face and cocky attitude with respect to Iraq. Rumsfeld is even worse. He looks like the Joker from Batman.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the secretary of the Treasury resigned. I think he has a very low IQ. I think all those booze parties in his youth burned his brain out. I'm 51 and this guy is totally revolting to me as a women. Someone should explain "Just In Time" inventory manage here in the U.S. People don't keep more than a week or two of parts. Look at what happened with the rolling blackouts. We haven't recovered from that yet. Ten days of having our docks closed out is economic insanity.
He is the kind of person who would justify using nuclear weapons on Iraq. We have more weapons of mass destruction here. And we are just about the only ones to ever use them. He gets this pout on his face. I have lots of pictures of him grinning like the idiot he is. I have one from shortly after 911 and he is in the snow with an Axe clowning around.

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: workinghard 2002-10-11 12:56:34 In reply to: redmondrose
Watch out, carnivore will find your post and the FBI will find you.

Smoking
Posted by: workinghard 2002-09-30 16:53:49 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
I understand and appreciate that some people feel the need to fill their lungs with carcinogenic substances. I understand that smokers fill put upon by complaints about their smoking, but I have to say that I am growing more and more tired of being forced to share my airspace with them.
I would like to be able to walk down the street without being forced to inhale/smell the noxious fumes being spewed by the person in front of me. I am especially tired of dealing with the rude smokers who insist on their right to smoke inside an elevator and other enclosed spaces.
Basically I am just so sick of this I would be happy to see legislation ban smoking completely, yes I would be the Smoking Nazi. Get the patch, get a lollipop and get a life smokers and stop killing the rest of us.

yes Clinton
Posted by: ftconsteriods 2002-09-28 00:33:44 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Yes, Clinton did nothing when any of our solders and sailors were killed. He did nothing when they bombed our embassies. He did nothing for 8 years. Claims to be the Black President but slums still there. Balanced the budget after he signed a Republican bill to do so after he vetoed 3 times. Clinton the moron, Gore the Bore. Hey Gore is now mad about the Gulf War ending, but he said it was ok in 91. Whoever voted for that jerk must be uninformed.

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: billmasters 2002-07-29 22:05:46 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
I'm always waiting for him to slip up when he's giving a speech. The other day I heard him say "the Energy Apartment." I assume that he meant the Energy Department :)
Sometimes I wonder if it's just that he can't read or if he just has speaking problems. Maybe it's a little bit of both.

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: herewegoagain 2002-08-06 16:33:16 In reply to: billmasters
Is it just me, or does anyone else hear a little "click" when Dubya blinks? Kind of reminds me of those little robots in the "It's a Small World" ride at Disney World.
He is an idiot (or should I say "Idjit") and will hopefully get voted back into obscurity where he belongs.

Re: George W. Bush
Posted by: JackBenimble 2002-08-09 14:09:44 In reply to: herewegoagain
Disney World. That place is horrible, without Epcot it would be a big waste of time. If you have to go to the sappiest place on Earth make it Disneyland, it is much "cooler."

Dubya
Posted by: Better Dubya 2001-08-14 19:37:31 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Dubya's a chump, but Far better than the Clinton/Bore ticket.

G.W.Bush is an idiot !!!
Posted by: zal 2002-07-25 00:10:09 In reply to: Better Dubya
Jean Chrétien is an idiot too. I guess that it doesn't matter to get there... (gosh, every single time they speak it's getting worse!). At least Reagan was a good actor.

Re: Dubya
Posted by: Morty Gazinsky 2001-08-14 19:44:49 In reply to: Better Dubya
Sure, my portfolio can attest to the validity of your statement. My stocks are worth 100 times what they were during the last administration.

The environment is in great shape, The VP has only had 67 heart procedures in the first six months of the term.

Dubya has managed to win over the world with his fine tuned skills, especially by recycling cold war vets to run his foreign policy.

Oh yeah, I know that Colin Powell is there for show.

Truth is that we would have been better under Gore than under the genius in office now.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: princekbg 2002-11-11 23:59:22 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
The environment is NOT IN GREAT SHAPE! Bush wanted to drill for oil in Alaska!

Re: Dubya
Posted by: Robert Gray 2001-09-19 21:46:03 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Yeah right, we would be so much better with Gore, he would have dropped a few bombs to satisfy public outcries and then sold arms all over the middle east for campaign funds. That would have been good. You may not like Bush but at least he cares more about the country then about re-election. I think it is sick for people to do anything other then join behind our president in this time of need, there will be plenty of time for evaluating actions but now is not the time.

Re: Dubya
Posted by: Morty Gazinsky 2001-10-12 17:35:51 In reply to: Robert Gray
Is it just me, or is Dubya almost the spitting image of Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane of Hazzard County.

We need more help than him and Boss Hogg- somebody please wake me up from this nightmare.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: Rebelwithacause 2001-12-25 05:35:07 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
It's a lot worse than you are thinking. The Bush Dynasty going back to Prescott are dyed-in-the-wool Nazi-eugenicists-racists and opium smugglers going back to the days with the Russell Trust. Bush Sr was a key player in the Iran-Contra drug scandal, Neil was a key player in the SNL scandal and Jeb was the key player in the Florida election scandal. W is now the key player in the Attack and I will prove it to anyone who is so disinformed to question it. How many scandals and criminal acts do you want to prove to you that these guys are a bunch of generational crooks, con artists and totalitarian fascists?

Re: Dubya
Posted by: RebelDebunker 2001-12-31 16:18:41 In reply to: Rebelwithacause
What a lovely Christmas posting from you, rebel. You still think Bush stole the election, huh? Despite all the major news organizations spending millions to recount and give Gore all the under votes? Guess what, Bush won it after all.

You say you will educate us on the Bush history. OK- go for it. I think your comments were copied and pasted off a fringe website. People with brains don't just accept your wild accusations without more proof. Go for it- get up on your little anarchist stage and preach your drible.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: Draconis 2002-07-19 02:56:02 In reply to: RebelDebunker
Bush did steal the election. It's obvious, and no amount of spin from anyone will counter the truth.

Re: Dubya
Posted by: cellphone 2002-01-02 13:16:22 In reply to: RebelDebunker
So Bush won the election, big deal. He barely won it and under circumstances that will always be considered questionable.

There is no doubt that September 11 has helped him tremendously. The country always rallies around the flag in times of war. His father had tremendous support during the gulf war and still lost the election.

Dubya is a chump, if it wasn't for Dick Cheney he'd be lost.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: merennulli 2002-04-08 11:33:05 In reply to: cellphone
A) There is a reason for rallying around a leader in wartime. Tends to help in winning said war.
B) Neither Bush started their war, and both lost most of their popularity points to the economic mistakes of their predecessor. Clinton set up "W" to fail by poorly managing the boon he and Bush Sr. helped bring about, and Sr. lost out because of the fall of Reaganomics.
C) I've looked over this list, it is nothing more than a rant about a republican in office. Not one bit of evidence has been put forward on either side. Find something to rant about, don't just rant mindlessly.

To everyone here...
Posted by: rychousmama 2002-06-17 13:05:21 In reply to: merennulli
Racism is actually an extremely prevalent problem here in the U.S. I would know since I've seen people say so many racist things about Arabs, Asians, Indians (asian indian), blacks, etc... in my lifetime. My friend from Oklahoma was condemned for dating a guy by her father and mother and family because he was black. My mom grew up for 20 years in Canada and she said when she came down here to the U.S., people were/are a lot more racist. It's sad, you barely see any black kids mingling and becoming friends with white kids. Everyone here should read the book Amazing Grace, it talks of the modern problems of slums of Bronx, New York, and the racial divisions that keep blacks down at the bottom of the social status ladder. It's all based off of what a man observed when he went to the slums and he often talks to the youth of the slums about their lives, etc... It's a beautiful, blunt, and eye-opening book. Please try it.
And a comment on Bush and being a liberal. Bush has, so far, done nothing beneficial for people in America (except for conservative bigots) or elsewhere. He made a gag rule on abortion in which he stops all tax money going to abortion clinics and yet sent monetary support directly to anti-choice groups instead. Now that these clinics are not getting any tax money, many women here in America have to go to back-alley "abortionists" and most of them die in the process of having the abortions. There is also no money to get American doctors and real abortionists overseas to countries like Peru and Ireland so that the girls there can have secret abortions. Ireland, Peru, AND many other countries deny a woman to have the right to choice even if she is pregnant as a result of rape or incest. So, these women in other countries also have to go to second-rate "abortionists" and many of them die. So not only are the fetuses dying, but the women are dying too. As a result of this gag rule, 1 woman dies every 60 seconds worldwide. Bush is a religiously ideological fanatic who has so far put church and state together, he supports putting the Ten Commandments right by the Constitution and other federal laws, it makes me sick. Also, being a liberal is great because we support human rights and pay attention to the issues everyone else tries to ignore or pretend they don't exist.
"People would rather believe in nothing than have nothing to believe in."- Friedrich Nietzsche.
"Feminism (n.)- the most organized form of common sense." -Lara Ayad

Response
Posted by: FatTexan 2012-02-01 18:36:37 In reply to: rychousmama
I disagree with MOST but not all of your points. This is my first day here, and I apologize if I do not follow proper procedure.

I often think about an event in my life. I remember more or less when or where but not the context. A total stranger whom I interacted with for perhaps one minute made a comment. My memory is that I guessed from his appearance and accent that he was a recent immigrant from Africa. His comment" "It is not perfect here, but it is better than anywhere else."

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: silverjack 2002-07-25 11:32:20 In reply to: rychousmama
Life does exist outside of your tiny little world. Racism is a problem, and it does exist. But if you take yourself into the larger metropolitan areas you will see more mixing. In my experience my friends and family are a mixture of white, Black and Asian.
In the last 5 years I have been to 7 interracial marriages. That doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist, but it does show that there are many people in the US who have a different experience from you.
I think that labels in general are poor. Calling yourself a liberal or a conservative implies a certain mindset, neither is necessarily true.
Feminism: The act of ignoring the world in order to further a political agenda at the expense of others.

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: rychousmama 2002-07-26 01:10:52 In reply to: silverjack
First of all, I don't live in a tiny little world of my own as you assume right away just cuz i'm a feminist. Have you ever even opened up a feminist magazine or knowingly talked to a feminist? Do you even know what the definition of feminism is? It's the activism to try to make living conditions equal for women. How does that go at the expense of others? How is it that you ignore the world by trying to achieve equal rights for people who are denied this because of their gender? What, do you think to yourself "feminism is the radical notion that women are human"? Oh, god forbid! Racism is rampant, metropolitan areas are a small world compared to the rest of America and many other parts of countries. In fact, there is a visible and big racial economic and even social divide in cities too. It's called the ghetto. You don't have to go to the ghetto to see racism either. The media and TV in the U.S. constantly portray black people as basketball-playing rapping gangsters and black women as "slutty" and with no brain. How degrading! I have had several black friends and none of them have fit that stereotype. It's good that you have many interracial dating friends and that they are open-minded, but look at how our media constantly portray negative stereotypes about minorities, and these images stick in people's heads, even if they do hang out with people of another race(s). I have known quite a few white, and non-white, kids from both cities and suburban areas that have many racial prejudices. I live a half-an-hour drive from Washington D.C., so don't think that I don't know.
-Lara.

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: herewegoagain 2002-07-29 12:37:32 In reply to: rychousmama
Lara,
I try very hard each week to disagree with Mr Nimble. But in this case I have to agree with him for the most part. You see, I am a black man who grew up in Mattapan Ma. Commonly referred to as Murder-pan. Despite my urban upbringing, I have turned out to be a very well adjusted, fairly well spoken, successful professional, with an affinity for motocross racing and a talent for Italian cooking. Much of my personal success in life has come from an internal desire to succeed, coupled with a supportive family backboard. But moreover, I had positive rolemodels to look up to. They were there in the '70s and '80s and they are there now. In my opinion, black people are by and large their own worst enemies. Many of todays hip hop songs actually promote infidelity, many predominantly black movies promote violence and "Thug Livin" and very few black celebrities choose to adopt proper grammar, which is absolutely essential to gaining respect in the real world. Blame the problem on whoever you want, but as a black man (and I don't know your race), I don't want your pity. I want to hold my own head up, and I want my brothers to do the same. Until that happens on a large scale, we will continue to be bottom feeders in this country. And until we discontinue the perpetuation of this "Thug Life" we will continue to deserve only what scraps we get. You cannot make the world respect you. You can only earn respect yourself. This applies to women too. To all feminists: Don't tell me to respect you....MAKE me respect you.

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: rychousmama 2002-09-20 17:52:48 In reply to: herewegoagain
okay, herewegoagain, i never assumed because you were black that you lived a "thuggish lifestyle", in fact, i hate it when both white and black people adhere to those stereotypes. Second of all, i never took pity on you or other black people. You misunderstood me, i absolutely hate pity, either being pitied or pitying someone else. It's degrading. Pity is a sign of weakness and patheticness on both parts. Third of all, r u saying that women have not done anything to EARN respect yet?? This is one big factor of sexism: these assumptions about women and men acting a certain way simply based on their sex. You must have misread my previous message. Sure, there are positive role models for blacks today, I agree, but now that i think of it, why the heck should white people only have white role models and black people only have black role models? Same goes for men and women. Why should we let abstractions like skin color and genitals get in the way of who we really are: individuals. And, i NEVER EVER said black people don't have a drive to succeed, Where did you get that idea? Had i not just written before in my previous message that, as you say, and I agree, hiphop and rap gives off a lot of demeaning messages and images of black people? Though it is true that some black people are just hurting themselves by promoting degrading images of black people, white people control a huge majority of media, television, and music. Last, but not least, in your latest message, you contradicted yourself completely by saying: "You cannot make the world respect you. You can only earn respect yourself. This applies to women too. To all feminists: Don't tell me to respect you....MAKE me respect you." Okay, first you said DO NOT make the world respect me, i have to earn respect, but the last sentence says, goodness gracious: "....MAKE me respect you." Maybe you don't understand feminists as well as you think you do. Feminists believe that people should respect you based on character, NOT based on whether you have a vagina or a penis. Feminists obviously recognize we have to earn respect, but, the thing is, we are not only taught as girls to not respect ourselves and stand up for ourselves, but, thus, people see women as not so respectable as men are just because we are women, not because we are all stupid or undeserving of respect! To herewegoagain and everyone else here: Do not tell me to earn respect, because i already have, it's your job to look beyond my sex and respect me because i am a respectable INDIVIDUAL.
-Sincerely, Lara.

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: workinghard 2002-09-26 17:49:16 In reply to: rychousmama
I suppose that you could argue about different levels/definitions of respect, but the reality is that respect is not just handed out.
In every aspect of your life it is something that is earned. Someone may give you respect as a person, but that is different from giving respect based upon your performance at work.
On this message board you earn respect by providing insightful and educational comments that add to the discussion, not by demanding it based upon your own sense of what you think you should be entitled to.

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: JackBenimble 2002-07-29 13:16:09 In reply to: herewegoagain
I am touched, agree with your Lex Luthor, what will they say in Smallville. Sounds to me like you are coming closer and closer to the dark side. :) "fear leads to anger, anger leads to..."

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: herewegoagain 2002-07-29 15:17:25 In reply to: JackBenimble
Well, I figure you can't be wrong ALL the time. ;-)

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: JackBenimble 2002-07-29 19:04:14 In reply to: herewegoagain
Education, education, education. I always knew that with enough exposure to common sense you would begin to come around. A couple more months and you'll be a new man. :)

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: JackBenimble 2002-07-26 11:27:26 In reply to: rychousmama
Your writing is filled with broad sweeping generalizations that are not based upon fact, but upon your POV. There are many examples of Black people who do not play the roles that you have cited. Will Smith, Oprah, Whoopie, Denzel Washington, Bill Cosby, Larry Elder, Thurgood Marshall. That is a short list of prominent Black Men and women who have played serious roles in the world be it through media or other avenues. The media can influence our view of people, but it is up to parents to teach their children that all people are equal. I am so tired of listening to ridiculous ranting. Stop trying to paint minorities as victims.
The National Organization for Women is a joke. They have taken something that could have been good and wrecked it. NOW is a group that no longer stands for equality, they stand for trying to place women on top of men at the expense of men. Equality is fine, but when you try to fix the system at the expense of others all you do is create problems.
Racism/sexism is not as rampant as you would like it to be. While it still exists, it is not the impediment that it once was. Take some responsibility for your place in life and make something happen. If people would do so, the world would be a better place. Stop whining about how bad life is.

Re: To everyone here...
Posted by: rychousmama 2002-08-10 19:59:19 In reply to: JackBenimble
Jack, why don't you give me an example of how NOW has worked at the expense of men? you claim i have no valid evidence, yet you don't even give one example to support your ridiculous claim. Second of all, I did not put stereotypes on minorities, i'm CRITICIZING people who stick to them, how dare you say that I WANT stereotypes to prevail? I have friends who are minorities and i mentioned before that THEY DO NOT adhere to those stereotypes, thus society shouldn't make them. How the heck did you get from that that I like racial stereotypes???? read what I write carefully and don't jump to conclusions. You say feminists work at the expense of others and men, HOW????!!!!!!!! Give an example!!!!!!!! have you ever even read into feminist writings in your life??!! People just want to believe that racism isn't as big of a problem as it is so they can push it back behind them, not having to face the problem. Even worse, people pretend to not tolerate racism, but when it comes to sexism, people couldn't care less. It's sad, and then they point the finger at feminists, saying that we cause all of the problems. There's no way that feminists can cause problems when they're standing up for equal rights between the sexes. The notion that feminists just want to put men UNDER them is a total misconception that many people have who haven't even made the distinction between a man-hater and a feminist. As one talented punk rapper female artist said, "Just cuz i hate rapists and policemen, doesn't mean I am a man-hater." Try to at least read one piece of actual feminist writing and you'll see what I mean, read articles from magazines like Bust, Bitch, Ms. and so on. Feminists just don't like sexist PEOPLE, both men and women who are. Also, read about Minority and African American studies, the book Amazing Grace is really good, it opens people up to the world of the people in the ghetto who keep getting shut out of the American world with no voice by the middle and upper class who just don't wanna hear it. AND NO, I'M NOT AT ALL SAYING MOST OR ALL BLACKS AND MINORITIES ARE LIVING IN THE GHETTO, THAT IS ALSO A RACIAL STEREOTYPE TO WHICH I DO NOT ADHERE!!!! I'm just saying that there is a bigger racial divide and problem with poverty and sexism than most people think. So don't just judge me and other feminists while not even knowing what the heck we stand for!
-Lara

Re: Dubya
Posted by: remaja 2001-12-21 10:09:28 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Frankly, I'm glad Bush got elected. After all, Gore is a busy body sticking his long nose into every other country's own business and making matters worse, while issues in America severely need his nose stuck into. BTW, the stocks were high wasn't because of the Clinton administration. At that time, Internet was at hype, Linux was at hype, PDAs was at hype, databases were at hype, and stock prices grew and grew. When the hype died, the stock's high prices would too.

Both Slush and Bore suck, maybe Nadder would do a better job.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: cellphone 2002-01-02 13:13:42 In reply to: remaja
Yep, you are right. Bush hasn't done a thing to stick his nose anywhere. He is just sitting around minding his business.

Re: Dubya
Posted by: Yukikopasta 2001-08-15 12:21:34 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
Funny how you start out with sarcasm and then attempt to put down Colin Powell as a showpiece in a most un-sarcastic attack. Does the concept of Blacks as Republican seem an oxymoron to you? Is it relevant that Powell would have beaten both Bush and Gore had he run for the Presidency?

Better under Gore? Care to extrapolate on that theory of yours?


Re: Dubya
Posted by: Buy-Sell 2001-08-15 12:54:51 In reply to: Yukikopasta
Colin Powell is just a showpiece and already we're seeing plenty of corruption and problems from his appointment.

For example, his son being placed at the top of the FCC is already proof positive of nepotism and placing non-qualified people in key positions just to placate certain elements of society.

Anyway, who says that Colin Powell would have beaten anyone if he ran? The reason he did not run is that he would have been subject to scrutiny and many questionable aspects of his life would have been revealed. He's a useless showpiece for Dubya.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: DrMoeser 2003-04-24 05:57:01 In reply to: Buy-Sell
I love your comments. Speaking from Germany I wonder what you make of Powell's threats against France? Does he intend to nuke the Eiffel Tower? Or will he ban Champagne? From Europe all of this becomes a bit unbearable...

Re: Dubya
Posted by: Yukikopasta 2001-08-15 16:34:47 In reply to: Buy-Sell
You sound like an angry liberal Democrat who has bought into the PC media mantra of attacking conservatives and Republicans, and labeling minorities with non-liberal leaning agendas as "showpieces". That is just sad. "Proof Positive" is an unusual phrase to use when your logic train is still boarding at the station. Have you made any comments on Michael Powell's qualifications to judge him as "unqualified"?

Were more qualified people passed over to give the job to him? Are you even aware he was already on the FCC board (1 of 5 board members?)

Bottom line - you don't like Bush and you don't like conservative minorities. You have perfect qualifications then to teach at the University level and warp the minds of those captive in lecture halls.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: PastaCinnamon 2001-08-15 14:54:50 In reply to: Buy-Sell
I agree. Colin Powell would not have won. The speculation is that he would have, but that is not reality.

First, no one really knows his politics. For all we know his views are untenable as president.

Secondly, the sad truth is that America is not ready for anything but another stuffy old white president, even if it means that he is an ignorant fool.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: Yukikopasta 2001-08-15 16:43:15 In reply to: PastaCinnamon
Are you saying you aren't ready for a nonwhite leader? Are you dismissing the fact that both Democrats and Republicans liked Powell? Do you believe most Americans are actually racist?

What issues do you have with Powell? People spout off about the guy, make veiled comments about him, but a career 4 star military general, he is not likely an easy push-over. As Secretary of State, he has already distinguished himself as a leader, dealing with multiple world crisis flashpoints.

What about Condoleezza Rice? Is she also just a mouthpiece from your point of view? It is extremely insulting to Powell to insinuate his views are the same as Bush's without making specific points.

Do your homework, check your facts, and read a little more than what shows up at your front door every day....


Re: Dubya
Posted by: PastaCinnamon 2001-08-15 17:59:25 In reply to: Yukikopasta
You write as if you have taken advice from Mel, the Chef on Alice "The best defense is a good offense."

America is still paralyzed by race. It is a constant topic in the media and conversation. If you suggest otherwise I would have to argue that you are just another oblivious white male.

The police engage in racial profiling in the largest cities in the US. What makes you think that anyone other than a white MAN could run for president and win.

Colin Powell has not distinguished himself as SOS. All that he has done is fly in to different areas and made useless comments. He has yet to engage in real diplomacy.

And Rice has done nothing but sit at her desk polishing her trophies. Then again her boss Dubya is too busy fishing to notice any problems.

Although he did do a good job of imitating his predecessor with his middle position on everything. He is a gun-slinging, no principled skank.

Perhaps if you came out of your ivory tower and into the real world where some of us work for a buck you might understand this.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: Eric 2001-08-23 12:39:19 In reply to: PastaCinnamon
And, let's face it. America is still paralyzed by Dubya. Is it my imagination, or did we just re-elect Gerald Ford? Did any of you see the email going around which estimates Dub's I.Q.? It was the lowest on record.

If Bush is supposedly a man of the people, one of us, doesnt that make us as stupid as he?

Im afraid of the answer. . . .


Re: Dubya
Posted by: Alexis Neberko 2001-08-21 03:39:28 In reply to: PastaCinnamon
I am a political science professor at the University of Moscow, and have studied your economic and social systems under both Democrats and Republicans. Americans like you, PastaCinnamon, are hard to understand when talking about race. Ms. Rice has visited Moscow 2 times, and I had the pleasure of meeting her away from the cameras. Politically sharp, very knowledgeable on our current economic difficulties, and much more accessible than her counterparts in the Clinton Administration. Do you realize that America treats black persons better than most African countries? How do you think African immigrants are treated in the rest of the world? I wish people like you would think before writing! My students often ask me why America, with all it's success and improvements in race relations since the 1960s, with prominent blacks in private industry positions of power, in government, still has people like acting like America is so racist. I explain what my colleagues at UCLA, University of Chicago, and Yale tell me, and from what I have learned on my 11 trips to the U.S. over the last 20 years- many Americans of today have lost all perspective, and are happiest only when complaining about problems that are almost nonexistent.

I wish you well, PastaCinnamon. You have an invitation to visit me in Moscow to gain some ideas on how good your country really is. Maybe you will learn to appreciate it one day.

Alexis Neberko
Professor of Economics
University of Moscow
http://www.mccme.ru/ium/index.html


Re: Dubya
Posted by: PastaCinnamon 2001-08-21 12:24:39 In reply to: Alexis Neberko
Dear Professor,

I appreciate your comments and can understand how someone with limited exposure and experience to the US would feel the way that you do.

Unfortunately there are still certain realities that this country lives with. Racism still exists. It may not be as prevalent as it once was, but it is there. Not so long ago a Black man was killed in Texas strictly because of his color.

In Los Angeles a white supremacist murdered a Filipino Postal worker and tried to murder Jewish children. That was only two years ago.

The fact that Blacks are treated better here than in Africa doesn't excuse racist behavior. People should be treated equally, end of story.

Please do not misunderstand me, the US has made great strides in dealing with racial issues. And there are those people who do nothing but complain.

But there is a middle ground here where we can look objectively and say that we have not reached a point yet where people are equal and treated that way.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: merennulli 2002-04-08 11:25:47 In reply to: PastaCinnamon
I believe you are right, but it needs better explanation. America is still racist in a limited arena. Just like theft, pornography, and many other foul deeds, racism still holds its own when nobody is looking. Where better to express that but the polls, where the ballots often don't even have a voter attached to them (sorry, still a little burned by the fact that registered democrat corpses beat out the votes of living republicans here in Missouri). On the other hand, I think an African American has a good chance of getting elected or appointed to prominent, figurehead, positions, simply to the mistakes of a misguided social conscious. In other words, people would vote for Colin Powel just to proove to themselves that they aren't racist.
Now, on the other hand, I'm against the constant rallying against wealthy caucasians, partly because I am one, but mainly because all it does is stirr up animosity between the races. An embraced enemy is much more off guard, and finds he has less allies against you than an enemy you throw stones at.

Re: Dubya
Posted by: Alexis Neberko 2001-08-21 03:38:37 In reply to: PastaCinnamon
You PastaCinnamon do not seem to appreciate the great country you live in. Why not walk in someone else's shoes to experience the freedom and success you Americans have. I read many of the negative comments about Bush here. It is so popular for you on the left to attack him for his policies and his personality. See next message.

Alexis Neberko
Professor of Economics
University of Moscow
http://www.mccme.ru/ium/index.html


Re: Dubya
Posted by: Buy-Sell 2001-08-14 20:09:16 In reply to: Morty Gazinsky
If you think that the president is your personal stock broker, no wonder your portfolio leave alot to be desired.

The only picks I'd trust from Democrats are fine cigars.


Re: Dubya
Posted by: CitizenSane 2001-08-15 10:20:11 In reply to: Buy-Sell
How about:

Dubya vs. McCain?

I could have accepted McCain as president. He's a principled guy. He knows what hardship means. He's not the village idiot. Am I asking too much?

Just Another Demanding Citizen


Food for thought
Posted by: danally 2004-10-21 14:00:10 In reply to: CitizenSane
Who am I going to vote for?
I am not certain. On social justice globally, I support a stepped up military presence, which I think the GW administration has not done. On domestic issues of social justice, and domestic issues in general, I think GW has fallen short as well.
Kerry and GW have similarities as far as coming from extremely privileged backgrounds. I think in many areas they are simply out of touch and into power. I think Kerry would sell out his mother to advance himself as evidence by the partners he has chosen to further his agenda and his senate track record or lack there of. He is a spoiled little boy who has grown into spoiled man who has been honing his resume for the presidency for most of his life. He wants the job that he is not qualified for. GW's resume does not impress me as well.
It boils down to do you want change for the sake of change, because you are hopeful and think that eliminating GW from office will have a positive outcome for America and the rest of the world, or are you somewhat apprehensive and not willing to take the risk, not knowing about what Kerry really brings to table. On global issues he wants to rely heavily on the UN. I think you know who and what sort of people vastly comprise the UN.
It is an ugly situation, totally unfamiliar to me in my lifetime. I have an interesting CD for you to listen to regarding our industrial military complex...it is disheartening. I am not very hopeful regardless of who is in the presidency. I will live my life day to day with optimism, and unlike this letter, try to be encouraging by how I show up daily, but in the grand scheme of things, I believe that the stone has been cast. Human beings have come a long way in many ways, as you survey the past 200 years, but we have not evolved as a species. We have not put in to practice what we have learned. We simply have limitations, it is the way we are wired, the way our brain functions.
I'll will know when I leave the polls as to who I shall cast my vote for. At least I can focus on the propositions, try to make sense of them and hope that they will have a positive impact on society.
-Danally
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