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Re: Microsoft Launches a Revolution, Apple Launches a Mouse
Posted by: Rob Enderle 2009-10-26 04:48:25
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I really was anticipating a battle royal between Microsoft and Apple and thought both companies would come to the mat with their best stuff. It felt like Apple was so focused on maintaining high margins last quarter that it gave up a huge chance to grow share, and its stealth launch of a couple of PCs and a multitouch mouse just seemed lame next to the massive rollout of Windows boxes. I'll share my observations on the Windows 7 launch and some of the things I got from several of the customers who were either trying out or deploying the product.
...is that all of the 'wonderfulness' in Microsoft's years of work on Windows 7 is that it is entirely offset by Apple simply releasing a new Mouse?
Unfortunately for Microsoft, that actually sounds about right.
Feel free to call me when Microsoft actually releases a compelling new product. While Win7 is clearly better than Vista, there's not any particular urgency IMO to run out and buy a copy: I can easily ignore the shills and wait until the my 4-5 year PC upgrade cycle rolls around for new hardware and get the 'whatever' then.
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Unfortunately for Microsoft, that actually sounds about right.
Feel free to call me when Microsoft actually releases a compelling new product. While Win7 is clearly better than Vista, there's not any particular urgency IMO to run out and buy a copy: I can easily ignore the shills and wait until the my 4-5 year PC upgrade cycle rolls around for new hardware and get the 'whatever' then.
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So Microsoft releases Vista SP2 and Uncle Fester's handpuppet here jizzes all over himself. It is an open secret that Enderle is on MIcrosoft's payola. No credible CIO is going to take or pay for this idiot's advice. Among the Gartner consulting folks, Enderle is a running joke (was at a Gartner event the other day). Something about his dog being his associate consultant at the Enderle Group.
Rob,
As the "product of the week" goes, its a natural outcome that Win7 will be it this week. For you to compare it to what apple did this week is a little disingenuous. As you and other tech watchers well know, each have their own cadence for releases and Apple's yearly or bi-yearly is matched by Msft's half-a decadely (ok - my word): We all know who has the mojo and we also all know who gets more biased kudos. So nothing new in your article - just my humble opinion. your point about Win7 being a good, solid OS is well echoed all over, so you didn't need to bash a mouse over it. If you decided to do that, you could've talked about the LED screens and other goodies as well, so your bias is showing here.
Cheers - Win & Apple user.
As the "product of the week" goes, its a natural outcome that Win7 will be it this week. For you to compare it to what apple did this week is a little disingenuous. As you and other tech watchers well know, each have their own cadence for releases and Apple's yearly or bi-yearly is matched by Msft's half-a decadely (ok - my word): We all know who has the mojo and we also all know who gets more biased kudos. So nothing new in your article - just my humble opinion. your point about Win7 being a good, solid OS is well echoed all over, so you didn't need to bash a mouse over it. If you decided to do that, you could've talked about the LED screens and other goodies as well, so your bias is showing here.
Cheers - Win & Apple user.
Have you blacked out for the past year? I mean, c'mon! Apple released Leopard two years ago (Win7 is hopefully about that grade) and released Snow Leopard just recently. If anything Win7 is competing with SL not a mouse! Apple refreshed every machine in it's line up this year. You just looked at a week worth of time and reviewing that? Nice! Do you have an editor at all?
I sure hope Win7 is as awesome as they claim it is, since MacOSX and Linux will just keep leaping forward. Bring on the windows that actually works for once! Competition is always good for consumers.
PS. That aero 'feature' is what's truly laughable.
I sure hope Win7 is as awesome as they claim it is, since MacOSX and Linux will just keep leaping forward. Bring on the windows that actually works for once! Competition is always good for consumers.
PS. That aero 'feature' is what's truly laughable.
apple always had benefited from a technologically ignorant audience which could be broken down into two types of users :
1-the biased fervid fan boy who will die twice before he criticizes anything that Apple makes or doesn't make.
2-the technology illiterate, who thinks that the first mp3 player is no doubt the iPod, that there is no other way anyone can transfer any music to a portable device without using the expensive, buggy yet user non friendly iTunes and that macs have actually faster hardware than PCs.
ill consider a mac when it can give me anything a PC can plus at least one unique feature that PCs cant offer, and so far, the only thing Macs are offering is a much higher price tag and pathetic viral commercials which im not interested in.
1-the biased fervid fan boy who will die twice before he criticizes anything that Apple makes or doesn't make.
2-the technology illiterate, who thinks that the first mp3 player is no doubt the iPod, that there is no other way anyone can transfer any music to a portable device without using the expensive, buggy yet user non friendly iTunes and that macs have actually faster hardware than PCs.
ill consider a mac when it can give me anything a PC can plus at least one unique feature that PCs cant offer, and so far, the only thing Macs are offering is a much higher price tag and pathetic viral commercials which im not interested in.
Windows 7 just fixes the problems that Vista had and a few new features. Since most people still use XP and switching over won't be easy. Most people will buy 7 if they have Vista or wait until they need a new PC. W7 is a non-event.
I've tried the new Apple mouse. It is better in every way from a regular mouse. The touch scrolling works great. Clicking has a solid feel to it that is natural. While it won't change the world of computing, it is a solid advancement of a product that already worked well.
Just another way to look at it. I use both Mac and PC. Don't really have a bias one way or the other but would like reports to do the same.
I've tried the new Apple mouse. It is better in every way from a regular mouse. The touch scrolling works great. Clicking has a solid feel to it that is natural. While it won't change the world of computing, it is a solid advancement of a product that already worked well.
Just another way to look at it. I use both Mac and PC. Don't really have a bias one way or the other but would like reports to do the same.
This article shows your extreme bias against Apple and how much of a tool you are. Apple comes out with new 21.5" and 27" iMacs, [the 27" with the option for an i7 processor that has hyperthreading that allows to to perform as if it has 8 cores] updates to the Mac Mini, updated Macbook and you dismiss all that and have to focus your comments about Apple on the Magic Mouse. Wow. You're a complete tool and this will be the last time I read Tech News World. I prefer objective news stories, not utterly biased crap like this.
Funny column. Especially the first line. As if Microsoft and Apple are engaged in a neck-and-neck race, with Windows 7 beating Apple's new mouse. If Apple and Microsoft appear neck-and-neck, it's just an illusion: Apple lapped Microsoft a couple of years ago.
If--IF--Windows 7 is now playing in the same ballpark as MacOS, then it's two years late; that's when Leopard, the MacOS that Windows 7 is competing with, was introduced. (BTW, Apple introduced its latest OS, Snow Leopard, earlier this year. So by my reckoning, Windows 7 is one OS version behind.)
Without exception, every person I know who uses Windows is running XP, an eight-year-old operating system. So where's the competition? Truth is, even with it's miniscule market share, Apple has driven the personal computer biz for decades. Without MacOS, Windows wouldn't look like Windows. Who knows, it might even still be a command-line OS.
I sincerely hope Windows 7 is as good as the hype. Apple could use the competition. And competition is good for computer users everywhere.
If--IF--Windows 7 is now playing in the same ballpark as MacOS, then it's two years late; that's when Leopard, the MacOS that Windows 7 is competing with, was introduced. (BTW, Apple introduced its latest OS, Snow Leopard, earlier this year. So by my reckoning, Windows 7 is one OS version behind.)
Without exception, every person I know who uses Windows is running XP, an eight-year-old operating system. So where's the competition? Truth is, even with it's miniscule market share, Apple has driven the personal computer biz for decades. Without MacOS, Windows wouldn't look like Windows. Who knows, it might even still be a command-line OS.
I sincerely hope Windows 7 is as good as the hype. Apple could use the competition. And competition is good for computer users everywhere.
And what a headline! This article was an absolute blast to read. Good work!
Good roundup of Windows 7. I would have expected nothing less. If MSFT does not get excellent reviews for its "second" attempt, it is truly armageddon for the IT world, especially enterprise. I am glad you refrained from making direct references to Vista because the latter should NOT have been a benchmark like some other reviews have attempted to do so. However I am amused as to why you opined that the Apple mouse "looks almost laughable". I fail to understand why this product is "laughable". Did you get a chance to use it ? How about a review, like you did for Windows 7. Thanks.
Are you forgetting about the Snow Leopard Release ? Are you trying to compare a software release with hardware release ? As far as I remember you can't compare a cow with a chicken.... or maybe I'm wrong... who knows. Anyway I really hope that Windows 7 will meet the quality and coolness that Microsoft is buzzing about, not for their profit margins not for the fame, but for the sake of users who certainly are deserving better things that the crap they got in the last decade.
Apple released improved hardware, Microsoft released improved software. Apple announced record earnings, Microsoft announced record losses. Maybe there is just more money in hardware these days.
Talk about flame-bait. A stealth launch of a couple of Apple PCs? New Mouse vs Massive Rollout of Windows Boxes? Listen, Apple's fall lineup is evolutionary because it already has good products. Windows 7 is revolutionary because that's what it took to fix Vista. Kudos Microsoft for getting it right this time. I even plan on buying a copy of Win7 to install on my shiny new iMac just as soon as I get it. Have fun eating flame for that intro Rob.
Got their groove back, lol. Microsoft has recently implemented basic measures that have been offered by several linux distributions and apple for years. Microsoft isn't very innovative, they simple copy ideas from apple and features from linix.
The last revolution Microsoft started was some year ago with people downgrading to XP from Vista.
That should be answer enough to this article.
That should be answer enough to this article.
